Re: OT - A Further Pearl of Wisdom About Mattresses

AZMAINIAC (AZMAINIAC(AT)prodigy.net)
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Katie,
Anything that has been written by the group is not meant to degrade =
anyone. TM is hard to understand unless one has been there. Please =
accept the fact that jokes amongst TM'ers may sound a little "off-color" =
to those who have never experienced TM.
Yes, there is much unrelated to TM itself, but it is for the mental =
well-being of TM'ers. I have made reference to many time to my =
mentor--my cousin who suffer for 17 years with Hodgkin's Disease. She =
made it because of laughter.
People sometimes interpret differently what others say.
I use this as an example: " I was standing fishing in the stream when =
suddenly a rushing torrent of water came, so I jumped to save my =
ass!--What's my donkey's name?
As for your cousin, his anger and rudeness may have been something he =
could not control because of depression. Depression is a chemical =
imbalance in the brain and spinal cord injuries can contribute to it.
No one in the group is here to cause trouble. We are all here to help =
each other.=20
I have written things that may have sounded rude to some, but I was =
stating the true facts.
Due to which I believe are misunderstandings from both sides, I will =
declare myself the federal mediator(Willie doesn't have time to make =
such appointments) and declare that there be no further responses to =
that which have been written. I have taken on this responsibility as =
there is only one other(I believe) who has "been there, done that" =
longer than I have.
I, heretofore, grant forgiveness to all parties and declare that new =
communications be established for the sake of knowledge to help Katie's =
nephew.
I hereby request Katie to send any questions she has regarding TM and I =
ask(DEMAND!) that all who have knowledge that they feel is beneficial =
respond to such questions in a congenial manner.
Amen
John, FM(Father Myelitis)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Dahl <dahl.j(AT)ghc.org>
To: kstanley(AT)ceaworldwide.com <kstanley(AT)ceaworldwide.com>
Cc: tmic-list(AT)eskimo.com <tmic-list(AT)eskimo.com>
Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: OT - A Further Pearl of Wisdom About Mattresses

>Dear Katie;
>
>I am not sure just what it is I said that is so offensive to you. =
However, I can assure you that there were no jabs intended at you or =
anyone else. If the tag line at the end is the issue, then I can also =
assure you that it was meant as an acknowledgement of my recent increase =
of OT (other topic) postings. A backhanded apology to those who don't =
care to see OT postings, if you will. I DO try to be sensitive to =
everyone's feelings.
>
>Having said that, and meaning every word of it, I will add that I =
firmly believe in the benefits of sharing humor, personal thoughts, =
emotions, prayers, whatever, with each other. It helps me know the =
people who are so wonderfully supportive and kind and vice versa. I am =
buoyed by it and find I resent the TM a few degrees less than I =
otherwise would. To that end, I will continue to share the humor and =
love in my life with those who care to share theirs with me.
>
>That leads me to ask, are you newly diagnosed with TM? It sounds like =
there is a lot of frustration and anger in you. You might not be happy =
with me, but this group IS one of the best places you're going to find =
for information, support, and help with the feelings we've all had to =
deal with. I encourage you to stay on and keep reading for a while =
more.
>
>MOST sincerely,
>
>Jane D.=20
>
>>>> Katie Stanley <kstanley(AT)ceaworldwide.com> 03/18 12:50 PM >>>
>I thought the comments were going to stop, however, I see that I am =
wrong. Those of you who have made these little jabs at
>me, I hope they have made you feel good about yourselves. It is a shame =
that you who are supposed to be in support of
>helping people feel that you are justified to make these comments to =
someone continuously when in actuality you should be
>ashamed of yourselves. I will be removing my name from this list and =
will make it a point to conduct my own research
>elsewhere, I will create my own list far removed from this one and will =
make sure that whomever I meet in the future who is
>affected by TM never makes the mistake of signing on to this LIST. =
Jane, the next time you want to make a snide comment to
>someone make sure you have moved out of your glass house because that =
person may be holding a rock. Thanks so very much for
>two days of wasted time and aggravation.
>
>Food for thought... when my Aunt was raising my cousin who was raised =
in a wheel chair, she told her something that at first
>I thought was cruel. She told her more than once, "Trebor, just because =
you have a disability and your angry sometimes, it
>does not give you the right to be rude". You know I never understood =
how she could say such a thing... until now. I think a
>few of you should take a moment and read this until it you get it.
>
>Jane Dahl wrote:
>
>> A further pearl of wisdom came my way about sleeping on a mattress =
high off the ground. . .do not use satin sheets! LOL
>>
>> Jane D. (who begs the forebearance of those who don't like it when we =
digress off purely TM topics)
>
>
>

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Katie,
Anything that has been written by the group is not meant to degrade = anyone.=20 TM is hard to understand unless one has been there. Please accept the = fact that=20 jokes amongst TM'ers may sound a little "off-color" to those = who have=20 never experienced TM.
Yes, there is much unrelated to TM itself, but it is for the mental = well-being of TM'ers. I have made reference to many time to my = mentor--my cousin=20 who suffer for 17 years with Hodgkin's Disease. She made it because of=20 laughter.
People sometimes interpret differently what others say.
I use this as an example: " I was standing fishing in the = stream when=20 suddenly a rushing torrent of water came, so I jumped to save my = ass!--What's my=20 donkey's name?
As for your cousin, his anger and rudeness may have been something = he could=20 not control because of depression. Depression is a chemical imbalance in = the=20 brain and spinal cord injuries can contribute to it.
No one in the group is here to cause trouble. We are all here to = help each=20 other.
I have written things that may have sounded rude to some, but I was = stating=20 the true facts.
Due to which I believe are misunderstandings from both sides, I = will=20 declare myself the federal mediator(Willie doesn't have time to make = such=20 appointments)  and declare that there be no further = responses to=20 that which have been written. I have taken on this = responsibility as=20 there is only one other(I believe) who has "been there, done = that"=20 longer than I have.
I, heretofore, grant forgiveness to all parties and declare that = new=20 communications be established for the sake of knowledge to help Katie's=20 nephew.
I hereby request Katie to send any questions she has regarding TM = and I=20 ask(DEMAND!) that all who have knowledge that they feel is beneficial = respond to=20 such questions in a congenial manner.
Amen
John, FM(Father Myelitis)
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = Jane Dahl=20 <dahl.j(AT)ghc.org>
To: kstanley(AT)ceaworldwide.com = <kstanley(AT)ceaworldwide.com&g= t;
Cc:=20 tmic-list(AT)eskimo.com <tmic-list(AT)eskimo.com>
Date= :=20 Thursday, March 18, 1999 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: OT - A Further Pearl of = Wisdom=20 About Mattresses

>Dear Katie;
>
>I am = not=20 sure just what it is I said that is so offensive to you.  However, = I can=20 assure you that there were no jabs intended at you or anyone else.  = If the=20 tag line at the end is the issue, then I can also assure you that it was = meant=20 as an acknowledgement of my recent increase of OT (other topic) = postings. =20 A backhanded apology to those who don't care to see OT postings, if you=20 will.  I DO try to be sensitive to everyone's=20 feelings.
>
>Having said that, and meaning every word of it, = I will=20 add that I firmly believe in the benefits of sharing humor, personal = thoughts,=20 emotions, prayers, whatever, with each other.  It helps me know the = people=20 who are so wonderfully supportive and kind and vice versa.  I am = buoyed by=20 it and find I resent the TM a few degrees less than I otherwise would. = To that=20 end, I will continue to share the humor and love in my life with those = who care=20 to share theirs with me.
>
>That leads me to ask, are you = newly=20 diagnosed with TM?  It sounds like there is a lot of frustration = and anger=20 in you.  You might not be happy with me, but this group IS one of = the best=20 places you're going to find for information, support, and help with the = feelings=20 we've all had to deal with.  I encourage you to stay on and keep = reading=20 for a while more.
>
>MOST sincerely,
>
>Jane D.=20
>
>>>> Katie Stanley <kstanley(AT)ceaworldwide.com&g= t; 03/18=20 12:50 PM >>>
>I thought the comments were going to stop, = however,=20 I see that I am wrong. Those of you who have made these little jabs=20 at
>me, I hope they have made you feel good about yourselves. It = is a=20 shame that you who are supposed to be in support of
>helping = people feel=20 that you are justified to make these comments to someone continuously = when in=20 actuality you should be
>ashamed of yourselves. I will be removing = my name=20 from this list and will make it a point to conduct my own=20 research
>elsewhere, I will create my own list far removed from = this one=20 and will make sure that whomever I meet in the future who = is
>affected by=20 TM never makes the mistake of signing on to this LIST. Jane, the next = time you=20 want to make a snide comment to
>someone make sure you have moved = out of=20 your glass house because that person may be holding a rock. Thanks so = very much=20 for
>two days of wasted time and aggravation.
>
>Food = for=20 thought... when my Aunt was raising my cousin who was raised in a wheel = chair,=20 she told her something that at first
>I thought was cruel. She = told her=20 more than once, "Trebor, just because you have a disability and = your angry=20 sometimes, it
>does not give you the right to be rude". You = know I=20 never understood how she could say such a thing... until now.  I = think=20 a
>few of you should take a moment and read this until it you get=20 it.
>
>Jane Dahl wrote:
>
>> A further pearl = of=20 wisdom came my way about sleeping on a mattress high off the ground. . = .do not=20 use satin sheets!  LOL
>>
>> Jane D. (who begs = the=20 forebearance of those who don't like it when we digress off purely TM=20 topics)
>
>
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