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We have been to several places that will not put lines in thier parking lot
so that they will not have to deal with handicap spaces, which would be
alright, because it's not the distance that a wheelchair has to travel but
the width of the space so as to let you pull your chair up to the door of
the car. So we just park at an angle if everyone else has parked straight
in, or park straight in if everyone else has parked at an angle. About the
isles in the stores....almost all of the storesin our local mall have their
racks too close together to get a chair through. When Jake wants to look
at something in particular and can't get to it, he simply goes up to the
clerk and tells them they are violating the disability law, and he would
like the isle clear so that he might get to what he wants to see. They
always move things for him. And so he doesn't get embarrassed, he tells
them he will be in another part of the store while they are moving the
racks and he will come back when they are done. They might complain when
he is gone, but they always move the racks. It really is a matter of not
letting yourself get too ticked off about things, and have patience,
patience, patience. Once we were parked at a Dr's office with our car door
next to a sidewalk ramp, when we came out someone had parked right in front
of the ramp so we couldn't get into the parking lot. We didn't harm the
car that was parked there, but we did leave a note saying we were sorry if
we inadvertantly put a ding in thier door with the wheelchair, but we were
parked exactly where we were supposed to be! Judi
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> From: SHIGETTE(AT)aol.com
> To: tmic-list(AT)eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: FYI - Parking Crusade
> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 1:28 PM
>
> In a message dated 8/10/98 1:26:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
RCookHook(AT)aol.com
> writes:
> <<
> Personally, If I am in my wheelchair, I could park further away if
adequate
> parking space was provided for my lift. Leave the closer p[arking for
the
> hip
> replacement and heart problem folks.
> Bob >>
> Bob...
>
> Oh boy... this is a sore subject with me.... Handicapped Parking....
Because I
> am 37, tall, blonde and blue eyes, people just don't see "sick"... I do
have
> that "Steroid Puff", but most people see that as just having a cute
little fat
> face....
>
> Although I am walking slowly, many times with a pronounced limp on my
left
> side... I get ridiculed and hollered at for using those spaces.... One
woman
> actually came up to me in the grocery store while I was buying milk, and
said
> to me while I was in the express line, "If I have a limp can I get one of
> those handicapped plaquards too?" One man even came up to me after I
finished
> parking and shook his finger in my face, saying, "Why don't you park
somewhere
> else and leave that space to someone who needs it?!" I almost
cried....But
> instead took a deep breath and told him, ".... that if he had a life
> threatening illness I'm sure that his doctor would approve a plaquard for
him
> also..." He called me a liar, abusing the system.... Said I looked
healthy as
> an ox...(LOL! That was a good one!) Some people are just unable to
"see" the
> needs of others...When I use the chair (which is most often) I am looked
down
> upon with pity, often stared at, but most frequently ignored. However,
when I
> walk, I am abused....for exercising a "right" that is rightfully
mine....Now,
> when I go to the store for a quick errand, I most often choose NOT to
park
> where I will be ridiculed...it is often easier to park a few stalls away
and
> not suffer the indignity....I make up for it with extra naps, and rest
> periods... it is much healthier for me than being emotionally attacked.
I
> prefer not to be the victim...
>
> Now this is my question.... We have one of the largest malls in the US
about 8
> miles from me...It is only 1 year old... However, the mall has just a
very few
> handicapped spaces (about 6-8 in front of each of the 6 main doors)...and
> literally THOUSANDS of parking spaces!!!!! I was told that the
Disabilities
> Act has a provision that states exactly how many handicapped spaces are
to be
> provided.... based upon the number of parking spots in the lot....(ie...
for
> every 100 spaces 2-3 must be handicapped....) Please note, these numbers
are
> not accurate... this is just an example....Unfortunately, I don't know
the
> actual breakdown, but would dearly love to get this problem corrected....
> Sadly, I have been unable to find the answers....and the city won't do
> anything to correct it, unless I can SHOW THEM!! I'm getting tired of
> parking a quarter mile away from the store... by the time I roll to the
> entrance... I am too tired to shop....
>
> Oh speaking of shopping... Has anyone ever gone into a store... Macy's,
> Penneys, Sears, and had problems in their wheelchair getting thru the
> isles/past the clothes racks?? I am sooo tired of having clothes and
hangers
> hit me in the face, not to mention loosely woven materials catching on my
> chair.... When this occurs, the sales clerks look at me like I am the
one to
> blame, when it is the other way around... Shouldn't they provide enough
space
> for us to get thru the isles safely? One time when I was completely
> paralyzed, I was in the grocery store and had to be lifted out of my
chair so
> that I could pass thru their theft control device.... HOW HUMILIATING!!
Get
> this, they were using their handicapped isle to display potato chips!!!!
The
> manager of the store apologized till he was blue in the face, and the
people
> behind me were embarrassed for me....It was then that I realized certain
> stores place more importance on their merchandise than people!
>
> Janie
>
>
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We have been to several places that =
will not put lines in thier parking lot so that they will not have to =
deal with handicap spaces, which would be alright, because it's not the =
distance that a wheelchair has to travel but the width of the space so =
as to let you pull your chair up to the door of the car. So we just park =
at an angle if everyone else has parked straight in, or park straight in =
if everyone else has parked at an angle. About the isles in the =
stores....almost all of the storesin our local mall have their racks too =
close together to get a chair through. When Jake wants to look at =
something in particular and can't get to it, he simply goes up to the =
clerk and tells them they are violating the disability law, and he would =
like the isle clear so that he might get to what he wants to see. They =
always move things for him. And so he doesn't get embarrassed, he tells =
them he will be in another part of the store while they are moving the =
racks and he will come back when they are done. They might =
complain when he is gone, but they always move the racks. It =
really is a matter of not letting yourself get too ticked off about =
things, and have patience, patience, patience. Once we were parked =
at a Dr's office with our car door next to a sidewalk ramp, when we came =
out someone had parked right in front of the ramp so we couldn't get =
into the parking lot. We didn't harm the car that was parked =
there, but we did leave a note saying we were sorry if we inadvertantly =
put a ding in thier door with the wheelchair, but we were parked exactly =
where we were supposed to be! Judi
----------
> From: =
SHIGETTE(AT)aol.com
> To: tmic-list(AT)eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: FYI - Parking Crusade
> =
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 1:28 PM
>
> In a message =
dated 8/10/98 1:26:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RCookHook(AT)aol.com
> writes:
> <<
> =
Personally, If I am in my wheelchair, I could park further away if =
adequate
> parking space was provided for my lift. =
Leave the closer p[arking for the
> hip
> =
replacement and heart problem folks.
> Bob =
>>
> Bob...
>
> Oh boy... this is a sore =
subject with me.... Handicapped Parking.... Because I
> am 37, =
tall, blonde and blue eyes, people just don't see "sick"... I =
do have
> that "Steroid Puff", but most people see that =
as just having a cute little fat
> face....
>
> =
Although I am walking slowly, many times with a pronounced limp on my =
left
> side... I get ridiculed and hollered at for using those =
spaces.... One woman
> actually came up to me in the grocery store =
while I was buying milk, and said
> to me while I was in the =
express line, "If I have a limp can I get one of
> those =
handicapped plaquards too?" One man even came up to me after =
I finished
> parking and shook his finger in my face, saying, =
"Why don't you park somewhere
> else and leave that space to =
someone who needs it?!" I almost cried....But
> instead =
took a deep breath and told him, ".... that if he had a =
life
> threatening illness I'm sure that his doctor would approve =
a plaquard for him
> also..." He called me a liar, =
abusing the system.... Said I looked healthy as
> an ox...(LOL! =
That was a good one!) Some people are just unable to =
"see" the
> needs of others...When I use the chair =
(which is most often) I am looked down
> upon with pity, often =
stared at, but most frequently ignored. However, when I
> =
walk, I am abused....for exercising a "right" that is =
rightfully mine....Now,
> when I go to the store for a quick =
errand, I most often choose NOT to park
> where I will be =
ridiculed...it is often easier to park a few stalls away and
> not =
suffer the indignity....I make up for it with extra naps, and =
rest
> periods... it is much healthier for me than being =
emotionally attacked. I
> prefer not to be the =
victim...
>
> Now this is my question.... We have one of =
the largest malls in the US about 8
> miles from me...It is only 1 =
year old... However, the mall has just a very few
> handicapped =
spaces (about 6-8 in front of each of the 6 main doors)...and
> =
literally THOUSANDS of parking spaces!!!!! I was told that =
the Disabilities
> Act has a provision that states exactly how =
many handicapped spaces are to be
> provided.... based upon the =
number of parking spots in the lot....(ie... for
> every 100 =
spaces 2-3 must be handicapped....) Please note, these numbers =
are
> not accurate... this is just an example....Unfortunately, I =
don't know the
> actual breakdown, but would dearly love to get =
this problem corrected....
> Sadly, I have been unable to find the =
answers....and the city won't do
> anything to correct it, unless =
I can SHOW THEM!! I'm getting tired of
> parking a =
quarter mile away from the store... by the time I roll to the
> =
entrance... I am too tired to shop....
>
> Oh speaking of =
shopping... Has anyone ever gone into a store... Macy's,
> =
Penneys, Sears, and had problems in their wheelchair getting thru =
the
> isles/past the clothes racks?? I am sooo tired =
of having clothes and hangers
> hit me in the face, not to mention =
loosely woven materials catching on my
> chair.... When this =
occurs, the sales clerks look at me like I am the one to
> blame, =
when it is the other way around... Shouldn't they provide enough =
space
> for us to get thru the isles safely? One time when I =
was completely
> paralyzed, I was in the grocery store and had to =
be lifted out of my chair so
> that I could pass thru their theft =
control device.... HOW HUMILIATING!! Get
> this, they were =
using their handicapped isle to display potato chips!!!! =
The
> manager of the store apologized till he was blue =
in the face, and the people
> behind me were embarrassed for =
me....It was then that I realized certain
> stores place more =
importance on their merchandise than people!
>
> =
Janie
>
>