Re: B.M's
Jo Ellen Finkelstein (ghellen(AT)ninenet.com)
Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:08:59 -0500
Lynn Rose wrote:
>
> Hi David ~
> I was still paralyzed when I first took the Cascara Sagrada.
> I'm glad to see that you are going to try this product. I only hope it
> works for you as well as it worked for me!!! Please let us know!!!
> By the way, what on earth is "botulinum toxin"?????? It sure doesn't
> sound like anything I would want to try.
> ~ Lynn ~
>
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> Subject: B.M's
> Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:47:42 -0700 (PDT)
> Resent-From: tmic-list(AT)eskimo.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:40:10 -0500
> From: "David T. Gibson" <david-gibson(AT)uiowa.edu>
> To: mushroo909(AT)aol.com
> CC: tmic-list(AT)eskimo.com
>
> Karen,
> I know how you feel and only hope that some good solutions
> emerge from our fellow tmers.
> B.M's have been a constant problem for me since day one of tm. I have tried
> all forms of laxatives, suppositories, herbal teas digital stimulation etc.
> Although I have no sensation , time spent on the john has always been
> painful with pain lasting into the next day. My gastroenterologist thinks
> that pains are due to colon spasms somehow sending pain messages to the
> brain. He wants to try stopping the spasms with botulinum toxin. Has anyone
> tried this treatment? At present all I want to get on and off the seat as
> soon as possible. The best I have been able to do to date is to take 2
> tablespoons of Phillip's milk of magnesia ( the pink cherry- flavored kind
> with a lubricant) at bedtime followed immediately by 2 six ounce glasses of
> water. Next morning I insert a Magic Bullet suppository (every bit as
> powerful as its name suggests) and get complete elimination in 15 to 20
> minutes. I do this every other day and have not had an accident , which in
> the past has always been a concern. My backside still hurts like hell but
> spending a short time on the john is good for the soul. I bet you never
> heard that one on Sunday !
>
> I doubt that my procedure will be of use or much interest to tmer's with
> sensation. However it may be useful to those of us with a paralytic ileus.
> I do not think that I have reached the optimum solution so please keep your
> versions coming. Right now I am off to buy some Cascara Sagrada. Will let
> you know how it turns out.
>
> DavidRose, Joiellen here. BoTox as it is known is the botulism toxin it is
used by some people to smoothe out wrinkles in their face, it produces a
temporary paralysis to mucsle tissue in the area it is introduced into.
This isn't the only use but it's the one that I remember right now.
Another hint for those with problems with constipation... drink
hot fluids like herbal teas, broth, or coffee (ugh) helps to loosen you
up. (sure helps me!) Joellen